by Angela Copeland | Jun 2, 2014 | Advice, Newsletter, Salary
You would be surprised at just how quickly negotiation begins. Often, the very first phone call you receive from human resources will be to get an understanding of where you are today, and where you want to be.
It’s important to be prepared for this question. So before you embark on switching jobs, cities, or career fields all together, you need to do some research.
There are a number of places you can look for information. Here are a few ideas:
- Salary.com – Salary.com is a website that provides salary industry averages by city. It provides data points on the lowest 25%, what the middle 50% are making, and what the upper 75% are making for a particular job in a certain area. The site gives you the option to pay for extra information, but I always stick with the free report. It’s not exact, but it will get you in the ballpark. One note on this site: more than one person has told me they think the site provides over inflated salaries. I haven’t found that to be the case. If you’re finding it to the be the case, you may want to brush up on your overall negotiation skills.
- Glassdoor.com – Glassdoor is one of my favorite sites for salary research, and I’ve mentioned it in my writing before. The site allows employees to anonymously report their salary by position. So, you can search for a particular company and a certain job. For example, if you search for FedEx jobs in Memphis, you’ll find that 144 people have reported their salary for the Senior Programmer Analyst role. On average, people in this role make about $85K. They range anywhere from $69K to $96K. That’s pretty helpful information, right?
- GuideStar.com – GuideStar is a website that allows you to search for information about your favorite non-profits. If you create a free account on their site, you can download the Form 990 for most non-profit organizations. Form 990 is the annual reporting return that most non-profits must file with the IRS. It provides information about their mission, programs, and finances. In addition, it typically lists their highest paid employee’s salary. Unless you’re applying to be the CEO of a non-profit, you won’t find your salary listed. But, the CEO’s salary is still a guide. If you know that one non-profit’s top paid employee is making $40K, and another non-profit’s top paid employee is making $200K, it should give you an understanding of how lower level employees may also be compensated.
- The Company Website – Some companies list the pay grades on posted jobs for internal employees. If you’re switching jobs within the same company, be sure to check this out.
- The Recruiter – Very often, if you ask the recruiter for a salary range, they will give it to you. This is another great, and very accurate, source of information.
- Friends and Colleagues – This is probably the toughest place to look for this information. But occasionally, there’s an opportunity to share information with those who work in a similar industry or role as you. Sometimes, they can be friends who work in different cities — or at different companies. Use your best judgement but, at least consider this conversation if the opportunity arises.
When you start your job search, you want to be armed with information. For example, don’t expect that if you move to a more expensive city to work for a new company that you’ll be given a cost of living raise. You will be paid market value for that particular job in that city – and the only way to know the market value is to research it.
Once you have an idea of your value, you will want to decide what your target range is. What’s the lowest you would go? And, where would you like to be ideally? From there, you’re ready to negotiate. Check out my previous articles for tips on starting a successful negotiation, and best of luck!
As a reminder, the Copeland Coaching Podcast launched last week! This Tuesday and every Tuesday, I will interview an expert in the field of job searching – including coaches, recruiters, financial experts, and more!
You can listen to the podcast in two ways. First, it’s available for free download on Apple Podcasts. You can also listen on SoundCloud.com. So, whether you want to listen on your desktop, laptop, mobile phone, or tablet, you’re covered. Listen from wherever, whenever!
And speaking of finding a job, I’m searching for a Social Media Intern for Copeland Coaching.
This person should have extremely strong organization and time management skills, with the ability to work independently and meet deadlines. They should have excellent written and verbal communication skills.
At a minimum, they should have experience personally using social media. But, it’s not critical that they’ve used social media in business before. This will be a great learning opportunity for the right candidate.
This is a paid internship, and the intern may be located in Memphis or may work virtually.
The full job description is located here (note: this is a PDF document). Interested candidates are asked to send their resume, cover letter, and social media links to intern@CopelandCoaching.com.
I hope these tips have helped you. Visit CopelandCoaching.com to find more tips to improve your job search.
Happy hunting!

Angela Copeland
@CopelandCoach

by Angela Copeland | May 28, 2014 | Advice, Newsletter, Podcast
I hope you had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend! The important holiday honoring our veterans is always a great opportunity to reconnect with friends and loved ones.
As you continue your job search, keep those close to you in mind. They can be a great resource for learning.
Of your friends, think of the one with the most interesting job. You know, the friend whose job you secretly wish you could have.
Have you ever thought about calling that friend and asking them to have an informational interview with you? An informational interview is when you sit down with another professional to learn about their career.
It’s not a job interview, but it is an excellent learning and networking opportunity. It can often help you to identify jobs you don’t want, and can open your eyes to jobs you hadn’t considered.
You might be surprised at just how easy it is to ask someone for an informational interview. Most people love to talk about what they do, and are more than happy to share with you.
I have found this to be true in both my personal job searches, and with my new podcast. As the title of this blog suggests, this is an exciting day. Today, I’m launching the first episode of the Copeland Coaching Podcast!
I sat down and interviewed my friend, Amy Ware, to get her perspective on the job search process. Amy is a long time career coach and Director of Career Services at Christian Brothers University in Memphis, Tennessee.
In my interview, Amy shares tips on job searching, dressing for success, and nailing the interview. If you’ve ever had questions about what you should or shouldn’t wear to an interview, this podcast is for you! Amy also gives great tips on what to do after an interview to follow up with employers and to increase your chances of getting the job.
You can listen to the podcast in two ways. First, it’s available for download on Apple Podcasts. You can also listen on SoundCloud.com. So, whether you want to listen on your desktop, laptop, mobile phone, or tablet, you’re covered! Listen from wherever, whenever.
If this is your first time to listen to a podcast on Apple Podcasts, you may not see the episode above listed right away. If you’re having trouble, search for “the podcast app” in the App Store. After you download The Podcast App, you can search for the “Copeland Coaching Podcast.” You should then be able to view the podcast episode for download. Once you download it, you can begin listening!
I hope you will enjoy this first episode of the Copeland Coaching Podcast. Tune in each Tuesday for a new podcast and expert guest. We will be discussing everything from getting an interview, switching career fields, offer negotiation, and finding happiness at work.
And speaking of switching fields and findings happiness, I’m searching for a Social Media Intern for Copeland Coaching.

This person should have extremely strong organization and time management skills, with the ability to work independently and meet deadlines. They should have excellent written and verbal communication skills.
At a minimum, they should have experience personally using social media. But, it’s not critical that they’ve used social media in business before. This will be a great learning opportunity for the right candidate.
This is a paid internship, and the intern may be located in Memphis or may work virtually.
The full job description is located here (note: this is a PDF document). Interested candidates are asked to send their resume, cover letter, and social media links to intern@CopelandCoaching.com.
I hope these tips have helped you. Visit CopelandCoaching.com to find more tips to improve your job search.
Happy hunting!

Angela Copeland
@CopelandCoach

by Angela Copeland | May 19, 2014 | Advice, Newsletter
If you’re in the later part of your career and find yourself starting over, you may be worried about a number of things. In particular, many older job seekers are concerned about the discrimination they may face during the interview process.
And honestly, it’s for good reason. First impressions happen quickly and make a lasting impact.
Even the Bureau of Labor Statistics agrees. Unemployed workers who are 55 and older stay out of work 20% longer than those between 25 and 54.
Reducing your perceived age can help you to avoid this dilemma. The steps below will help you shave years off your resume.
- Truncate your work experience – It’s not a requirement that you list every job you’ve ever had on your resume. Including the last 10-15 years is sufficient to give an accurate picture of your work history and direction. Try leaving out your first few positions which may be less relevant, lower level, and possibly redundant as compared to your recent work history.
- Eliminate your graduation years – Dropping off your graduation years from your resume can make it harder to guess your age. Just remember to also drop these years from your LinkedIn profile and other social media sites, like Facebook.
- Use an up-to-date e-mail address – Stay away from older e-mails like AOL, Yahoo, or Comcast. These e-mail addresses are giveaways to a person’s age. In certain fields, it may also suggest that you’re not up to date with the latest technology. For a more modern e-mail address, consider Gmail or Live.com. Both are free and easy to sign up for.
- Don’t include a home phone – On your resume, you only need to include one phone number. Most likely, this will be your cell phone. But, whether it’s your cell phone or home phone, there’s no need to specify. The younger generation is no longer signing up for home phones, so displaying yours only highlights your age.
- Keep the total length to two pages, maximum – There’s no need to include every activity and project you’ve ever worked on. If you apply to jobs with a resume that’s more than two pages, you give the impression that you either don’t know how to write a resume, or you have WAY MORE work experience than everyone else. Keep your resume to one or two pages to avoid this stigma.
- Leave off “references available upon request” – There’s no need to include this phrase on your resume. You provide references as a separate part of the interview process. Including this phrase (or a list of references) on your resume only raises questions.
Just remember, a large part of your age is all about perception. It’s how you present yourself on paper, online, and in person. Taking a little time to clean up your resume can trim years off your age, and months off your job search.
I hope these tips have helped you. Visit CopelandCoaching.com to find more tips to improve your job search.
Happy hunting!

Angela Copeland
@CopelandCoach

by Angela Copeland | May 12, 2014 | Advice, Newsletter
Lately, I’m finding myself having the same conversation. It has to do with your salary negotiation, and it starts a lot sooner than you’d think.
Typically, your very first interview at a company is with the HR manager. Sometimes, it’s with the hiring manager. Either way, the first discussion is fairly casuel with questions about where you’ve lived, or how many people you’ve managed before. These questions are all easy and routine.
The question that really throws people for a loop in the first interview is this one: “How much do you make?” It can also come in the form of, “How much do you want to make?”
Many people feel obligated to spill the beans. The interviewer is in a position of authority, and they really want to get a job offer.
You can share your salary information if you want to. But, my recommendation is to try to avoid sharing this information if you can. When it comes to negotiation, whoever provides the number first is also the first loser. They give up valuable negotiating power and leverage.
Here are a few things you can say to avoid sharing your salary history in the first meeting:
- “The job I’m interviewing for isn’t similar to the job I currently have, so the salaries really don’t translate.”
- “I’m not comfortable sharing that information just yet. I’d like to learn more about the role first.”
- (My personal favorite) “I understand where you’re coming from. Can you share your salary range with me?”
- (If all else fails) “My target range is $X,000 to $X,000.”
The first two work about half of the time. Often though, the recruiter or hiring manager will say something like, “I just don’t want to waste your time.” Or, “I don’t want to waste our time if we’re not even in the same ballpark.” If this happens, it’s a good opportunity to push back and ask for their range. Surprisingly, about 80% of the time, they will divulge their own salary range for you. At that point, you can just confirm whether or not you would like to be in the range given.
If a range is provided, it’s a huge win for you. You can find out what the company has budgeted for the position. And, there’s a chance the range may be significantly higher than your current salary. Played correctly, this approach can sometimes allow you to leapfrog your current pay.
If the interviewer continues to push, provide a range of where you would like to be (rather than where you are today). Be careful on how you word this answer, so that it doesn’t portray inaccurate information about your current salary. But, you can often provide your target range without giving up your current salary information.
Most of the time, these tactics work, but you should know – they don’t always work. Many years ago, I had a recruiter stop the interview and tell me that she would go no further if I wouldn’t divulge my current salary information to her. She was a New Yorker with a strong presence who was used to getting what she wanted. I calmly told her that I understood her position, and that I could respect how she felt, but that I just wasn’t comfortable. As promised, she ended the interview right then. To my surprise, she called back a few days later to say the company would make an exception for me.
Now, definitely don’t look for an exception. What happened in my case was extremely rare. What isn’t so rare however is how it feels when this conversation comes up.
Typically, the question is asked in a rather abrupt way that doesn’t quite fit in with the rest of the conversation. The person asking is either:
- Someone who loves asking the salary question. They look at the process as a game, and they love to see you squirm. They take pride in their ability to get this information out of you, and they may be a little offended if they can’t.
- Someone who hates asking the salary question. Talking about money is a pretty uncomfortable topic. They’re asking because they’re required to do so. It’s part of their job and they want to get it over with as soon as possible.
In either case, it’s an uncomfortable discussion to be a part of. The good news is that this question only takes about 5 minutes of your interview. Just remember that it will be uncomfortable, and there’s little you can do to change that. Just roll with it, and don’t cave under the pressure. Develop your strategy in advance, and listen to your instincts.
After the 5 minutes passes, the interviewer will almost always return to normal. You’ll find yourself talking about the weather again, or your favorite sport. And, you may even be scheduling your next interview. It’s a bit shocking just how uncomfortable this discussion can be, and then how quickly it becomes comfortable again.
These suggestions may feel a bit alien if you’ve never tried them. The good news is, surviving this uncomfortable 5 minute conversation is worth a lot – a lot of money that is! As always, practice makes perfect. You may make mistakes along the way, but after trying this approach a few times, you’ll find yourself sticking the landing.
I hope these tips have helped you. Visit CopelandCoaching.com to find more tips to improve your job search.
Happy hunting!

Angela Copeland
@CopelandCoach

by Angela Copeland | May 5, 2014 | Advice, Newsletter
I recently had the special opportunity to interview an old friend about his exciting and successful career. Hint: I will be launching the Copeland Coaching podcast very soon! You will be able to listen to the entire interview online. Watch CopelandCoaching.com for updates. In the meantime, I want to share a little preview of our conversation here.
Shane Presley has had an amazingly career in technology. I met Shane when we worked together at FedEx back in 2001. Since then, he’s found great job after great job that have taken him to cities all over the world. A few years ago, he worked at Netflix in San Francisco and most recently, he worked for a large bank in Sydney, Australia.
He’s back in the US now, so I had the opportunity to sit down with him to learn more about how he’s grown his career. There were many great takeaways from our discussion. You will be able to hear the entire thing very soon, but there’s one piece of our conversation that really stuck out to me.
When I asked Shane about one of the most important lessons he’s learned that’s helped him along the way, he said it was being open to new opportunities and ideas.
When he started his career, Shane wanted to become a certain kind of computer programmer that was very popular then. But, there were already too many of that kind, so he was given the opportunity to try something that nobody else was doing. It was 100% different than his plan. In the end, it allowed him to enter into a niche market. He’s now a rare find for companies. It has allowed him to grow his career in ways he would have never initially been able to imagine.
I often speak with people who have turned down job interviews for various reasons. It’s not enough money. The location is not ideal. They’re not qualified for the position. The list goes on and on.
I also often speak with people who are not open to trying new things with their search. Perhaps they don’t want to try getting personal business cards, or aren’t comfortable modifying how they talk about themselves. Maybe they think networking is a waste of time.
Regardless, the story is the same. The person knows exactly what they want, and how they want to get there. No alternative path will do.
On the flip side, I also meet people who are very open. Maybe they’ve spent their entire career in non-profit, but are open to a for-profit opportunity that looks interesting. Maybe they don’t have all the skills for a particular role, but they’re willing to give it a shot. Perhaps they’ve never negotiated before, but they try (and risk failing).
Failure is such a scary idea for many people. The idea of it holds them back. But, when you don’t try, you’ve already failed. And, if your current method isn’t working, what do you have to lose by trying something a little outside of your box?
I’ve noticed a trend in my coaching. Those who are willing to be more open, willing to learn, and willing to try something different are successful. They realize they don’t have all the answers, and continue to adjust their strategy until they find one that works. Sometimes they do fail, but they keep moving and eventually, they win – big.
Now, I’m not back tracking on my earlier advice I’ve given you about sticking to one clear message in your elevator pitch. Keep doing that. Don’t start telling employers you’re willing to try anything. I closes doors like nothing else. But, if an employer sees something in you that’s different than you were planning, take the time to talk to them. Learn more. Consider possibilities. (Even if the money seems low at first, remember that you can always negotiate for more.)
Being open to possibilities opens so many doors. It can allow you to create a successful and fulfilling career path you never dreamed possible.
I hope these tips have helped you. Visit CopelandCoaching.com to find more tips to improve your job search.
Happy hunting!

Angela Copeland
@CopelandCoach

by Angela Copeland | Apr 28, 2014 | Advice, Newsletter, Relocation
I hope you had a beautiful weekend. With the weather starting to warm up, many people are beginning to consider their next big move. But, for some, their only relocation experience as an adult came when they moved away to college, or for their first job.The idea of relocating can be daunting for many, as they aren’t sure where to begin. An Oklahoma native, I remember my grandmother visiting me in Los Angeles after I moved there for graduate school. “How did you ever even think to think of this?” she asked.
Since leaving Oklahoma, I’ve relocated to 5 different states: New York, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, and California. Not once did I ever know a single person in any of the places I moved to. All of this relocating helped me to develop best practices for how to relocate successfully.
1. Don’t move without a job. Unless you have no other option, don’t move to a new city where you have no contacts without a job in place. You’ll lose your current network, and increase the likelihood you’ll be forced to take a job that’s beneath your skill level. Moving without a job is one of the one of the worst pieces of advice I hear family members and friends giving out freely. Consider the source, and don’t do it. I’ve never received this advice from anyone who has moved to a new city without a job.
2. Look for existing connections. Often, we forget when friends or colleagues relocate to other cities — or we miss it altogether. They may have moved away years ago. Check LinkedIn and Facebook for existing connections you have in your new city. Reach out to them, and let them know you’re trying to move. They can often help to plug you in.
3. Start growing your network. Reach out to new people in your new city. An easy place to start is with headhunters. Then, check the local chapters of national organizations you’re associated with in your current city. E-mail their president and other officers to open up new connections.
4. Plan a trip. Visiting your new city will help solidify next steps, and will show how serious you are to your network and potential employers. It will also give you an idea of where you want to live and work, and how much money you’ll need to maintain your current standard of living.
5. Schedule meetings. Before you travel, set up appointments with recruiters and networking contacts. Ideally, schedule 2-4 meetings per day you’re there. It can be tiring, but it’s worth the investment of your time. It’s much easier to connect in person than from thousands of miles away.
6. Attend networking events. Rather than spending your evenings as a tourist (which would be a great idea if you weren’t trying to permanently move there), look up local networking events. Check sites like Meetup.com and EventBrite.com to get the scoop on your new city. When you attend events, take the time to meet new people and exchange business cards. This step may feel scary, but you can do it. Attending an event alone is an excellent way to meet new people.
7. Follow up. When you return home, take the time to follow up with your connections – new and old. Reminding your new network of who you are, and what you’re looking for. Attach your resume, so they can easily forward it on to others.
Whatever you do, understand that a successful move is a process that takes time. This is especially true if you want to relocate to a popular city with a more competitive job market. Following these steps will not only ensure you land a job in your new city, but it will also create a network of contacts who’ll be there to greet you when you arrive.
I hope these tips have helped you. Visit CopelandCoaching.com to find more tips to improve your job search.
Happy hunting!

Angela Copeland
@CopelandCoach
